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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://stuartbruce.biz/2007/09/6000-for-a-crou.html/comment-page-1#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stuart - surely a social site like MW getting its users to enhance its image is a basic Web 2.0 tactic and a path well-trodden. Call it UGC / crowdsourcing / whatever, it&#039;s not quite a public financial audit like you say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blog buzz is about 1,400 new links so far on this experiment, and there are some really nice logos being designed too. MW has a huge audience though so it is bound to get an audience. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart &#8211; surely a social site like MW getting its users to enhance its image is a basic Web 2.0 tactic and a path well-trodden. Call it UGC / crowdsourcing / whatever, it&#39;s not quite a public financial audit like you say.</p>
<p>Blog buzz is about 1,400 new links so far on this experiment, and there are some really nice logos being designed too. MW has a huge audience though so it is bound to get an audience. </p>
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		<title>By: ourman</title>
		<link>http://stuartbruce.biz/2007/09/6000-for-a-crou.html/comment-page-1#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>ourman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So Daljit if you&#039;d trust an agency to do it would you let them decide which of their worked-up logos you go with?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, the client has the final choice.  This is not pop idols.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry but I am willing to be that the thousand plus logos this competition has attracted is more likely to create something workable than a couple of creatives at an agency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s face it, if the designers of the world had been asked to do the Olympic logo it would have a great deal better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d agree it&#039;s an awful name though.  Maybe an agency thought it up ;o)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Daljit if you&#39;d trust an agency to do it would you let them decide which of their worked-up logos you go with?</p>
<p>No, the client has the final choice.  This is not pop idols.</p>
<p>Sorry but I am willing to be that the thousand plus logos this competition has attracted is more likely to create something workable than a couple of creatives at an agency.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s face it, if the designers of the world had been asked to do the Olympic logo it would have a great deal better.</p>
<p>I&#39;d agree it&#39;s an awful name though.  Maybe an agency thought it up ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Daljit B</title>
		<link>http://stuartbruce.biz/2007/09/6000-for-a-crou.html/comment-page-1#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Daljit B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that this seems ill thought through and &#039;Mister Wong&#039; (with a name like that a logo should be the last of their worries) seem to have missed the point about the &#039;wisdom of crowds&#039;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you are trying to engage your community to shape your brand, why filter the final decision via a judging panel made up of just ten randoms? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All the designs should simply be put to a vote of the sites users with the most popular logo adopted. Either you trust your community&#039;s opinion or you don&#039;t - you can&#039;t really have it both ways. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this seems ill thought through and &#39;Mister Wong&#39; (with a name like that a logo should be the last of their worries) seem to have missed the point about the &#39;wisdom of crowds&#39;. </p>
<p>If you are trying to engage your community to shape your brand, why filter the final decision via a judging panel made up of just ten randoms? </p>
<p>All the designs should simply be put to a vote of the sites users with the most popular logo adopted. Either you trust your community&#39;s opinion or you don&#39;t &#8211; you can&#39;t really have it both ways. </p>
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		<title>By: ourman</title>
		<link>http://stuartbruce.biz/2007/09/6000-for-a-crou.html/comment-page-1#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>ourman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t entirely disagree but I am guessing most of the people who will enter will be experienced designers.  Surely they understand the concept of corporate identity and more importantly the associated brand values.  I am guessing they can read up extensively on the aims of Mister Wong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am sure there will also be professionals who might give the winning design, what we used to call in the agency I worked for, a haircut.  Smarten it up and then use the essential elements in the wider branding of the organisation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s face it, unless there is an absolute dearth of entries then there will be plenty to choose from - and that choice will be made by people who understand the branding process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the meantime they get a raft load of PR from the competition, they get a relatively cheap logo, and they don&#039;t have to pay £100 an hour for too much &quot;if you were an animal what kind of animal would you be&quot;, agency flannel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Agreed that the branding process is not just about finding a pretty little image.  But I&#039;d have faith in the organisers to make sure what they pick is fit for purpose.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t entirely disagree but I am guessing most of the people who will enter will be experienced designers.  Surely they understand the concept of corporate identity and more importantly the associated brand values.  I am guessing they can read up extensively on the aims of Mister Wong.</p>
<p>I am sure there will also be professionals who might give the winning design, what we used to call in the agency I worked for, a haircut.  Smarten it up and then use the essential elements in the wider branding of the organisation.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s face it, unless there is an absolute dearth of entries then there will be plenty to choose from &#8211; and that choice will be made by people who understand the branding process.</p>
<p>In the meantime they get a raft load of PR from the competition, they get a relatively cheap logo, and they don&#39;t have to pay £100 an hour for too much &quot;if you were an animal what kind of animal would you be&quot;, agency flannel.</p>
<p>Agreed that the branding process is not just about finding a pretty little image.  But I&#39;d have faith in the organisers to make sure what they pick is fit for purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Killick</title>
		<link>http://stuartbruce.biz/2007/09/6000-for-a-crou.html/comment-page-1#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Killick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another website concept in the same vain...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://contests.sitepoint.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://contests.sitepoint.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think this may work for SMEs and start-ups as many companies (some who should know better) still don&#039;t make the connection to &#039;brand&#039; and what they are doing. But, some do manage to create something organically.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The flip side could be that you pay for brand expertise and end up with something way off mark when it goes to market anyway. The London Olympics logos being a case in point.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One thing this kind of &#039;stunt&#039; does do though, is raise awareness online. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another website concept in the same vain&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://contests.sitepoint.com/" rel="nofollow">http://contests.sitepoint.com/</a></p>
<p>I think this may work for SMEs and start-ups as many companies (some who should know better) still don&#39;t make the connection to &#39;brand&#39; and what they are doing. But, some do manage to create something organically.</p>
<p>The flip side could be that you pay for brand expertise and end up with something way off mark when it goes to market anyway. The London Olympics logos being a case in point.</p>
<p>One thing this kind of &#39;stunt&#39; does do though, is raise awareness online. </p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Waddington</title>
		<link>http://stuartbruce.biz/2007/09/6000-for-a-crou.html/comment-page-1#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Waddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wholly agree with you Stuart but there is already a model for creating a competitive environment for professional services in elance.com.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wholly agree with you Stuart but there is already a model for creating a competitive environment for professional services in elance.com.</p>
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