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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andy It&#039;s tick box social media so that they can claim they&#039;ve done it&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@wadds Totally agree about the backlash&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@david Too true&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@Claire - great point, originally I started this post with two extra questions, but then decided it would have more impact if I stuck to one. The missing question was &quot;What social media mistakes have you made?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andy It&#39;s tick box social media so that they can claim they&#39;ve done it</p>
<p>@wadds Totally agree about the backlash</p>
<p>@david Too true</p>
<p>@Claire &#8211; great point, originally I started this post with two extra questions, but then decided it would have more impact if I stuck to one. The missing question was &#8220;What social media mistakes have you made?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Bruce&#8217;s top 10 PR blog posts of 2009 &#124; A PR Guy&#39;s Musings: Stuart Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Bruce&#8217;s top 10 PR blog posts of 2009 &#124; A PR Guy&#39;s Musings: Stuart Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The only three questions you need to ask your prospective PR social media agency – 14 comments A post that generated lots of retweets and was in a similar vein to one of my most popular posts of 2008 &#8211; Top ten ways not to choose a social media consultant. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The only three questions you need to ask your prospective PR social media agency – 14 comments A post that generated lots of retweets and was in a similar vein to one of my most popular posts of 2008 &#8211; Top ten ways not to choose a social media consultant. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post Stuart - again. I was talking to my brother in law the other day about his PR agency of choice. They had advised them to start a blog but make it only accessable to people who sign up for the content. When I asked him did his agency blog themselves, he looked and realised that they didn&#039;t.

You wouldn&#039;t learn to drive with someone who doesn&#039;t have a license so why do so many companies employ agencies to do something they have little or no experience in doing? I suppose there must be quite a few agencies that employe better salespeople than they do practitioners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post Stuart &#8211; again. I was talking to my brother in law the other day about his PR agency of choice. They had advised them to start a blog but make it only accessable to people who sign up for the content. When I asked him did his agency blog themselves, he looked and realised that they didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t learn to drive with someone who doesn&#8217;t have a license so why do so many companies employ agencies to do something they have little or no experience in doing? I suppose there must be quite a few agencies that employe better salespeople than they do practitioners.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim - I&#039;m bound to favour public relations, as that&#039;s what I do! However, the real reason I favour it is that I mean public relations in its truest sense, which isn&#039;t frothy publicity, but is about relationships, behaviour and reputation. Saying &quot;Certainly you’d want some PR support on driving awareness&quot; is a very marketing centric view of what public relations actually is and is like looking at 5% of what we do!

@Craig - Communicator is only part of what public relations does so I&#039;d argue it&#039;s too narrow a term.

@Michelle - Strongly disagree with you. Our first Twitter case study is from early 2007 and by today&#039;s standards wasn&#039;t very good. We&#039;ve other since, some good, some not so. The medium isn&#039;t that young, it&#039;s just that too many people came to it so late. There&#039;s also how those who who get too excited about how earth shattering it all is, when in fact it isn&#039;t that different to what some of us did 20 years when I first started. Two way communication, listen, learn, conversation - none of that is new, social media simply makes it more visible and easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim &#8211; I&#8217;m bound to favour public relations, as that&#8217;s what I do! However, the real reason I favour it is that I mean public relations in its truest sense, which isn&#8217;t frothy publicity, but is about relationships, behaviour and reputation. Saying &#8220;Certainly you’d want some PR support on driving awareness&#8221; is a very marketing centric view of what public relations actually is and is like looking at 5% of what we do!</p>
<p>@Craig &#8211; Communicator is only part of what public relations does so I&#8217;d argue it&#8217;s too narrow a term.</p>
<p>@Michelle &#8211; Strongly disagree with you. Our first Twitter case study is from early 2007 and by today&#8217;s standards wasn&#8217;t very good. We&#8217;ve other since, some good, some not so. The medium isn&#8217;t that young, it&#8217;s just that too many people came to it so late. There&#8217;s also how those who who get too excited about how earth shattering it all is, when in fact it isn&#8217;t that different to what some of us did 20 years when I first started. Two way communication, listen, learn, conversation &#8211; none of that is new, social media simply makes it more visible and easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent blog that raises some serious questions.  Certainly if I was client side these are the types of questions I&#039;d be asking my agency.  The only point I&#039;d make is about the case studies.  Twitter and Facebook are still relatively young mediums with actually not that many organisations trully encompassing social media as a sincere and valued part of their of their comms strategy.  I think many are scared by the thought of direct communication and the immediacy it requires.  They don&#039;t have the time, resource or incliniation to really understand it.  

As such, until we get companies fully committed to social media strategies we won&#039;t be able to generate case studies. And, as the medium is still so young I think if organisations trust their agencies and PR folk they can learn together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog that raises some serious questions.  Certainly if I was client side these are the types of questions I&#8217;d be asking my agency.  The only point I&#8217;d make is about the case studies.  Twitter and Facebook are still relatively young mediums with actually not that many organisations trully encompassing social media as a sincere and valued part of their of their comms strategy.  I think many are scared by the thought of direct communication and the immediacy it requires.  They don&#8217;t have the time, resource or incliniation to really understand it.  </p>
<p>As such, until we get companies fully committed to social media strategies we won&#8217;t be able to generate case studies. And, as the medium is still so young I think if organisations trust their agencies and PR folk they can learn together.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig McGill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig McGill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s easy to use the word PR as the starting point for all things social media, but I would say that &#039;communicator&#039; is a better catch-all. Without a good communicator - not just a speaker/typer but someone who can spot the opportunities while also knowing when to shut up is essential.

Claire&#039;s point is a very valid one. I know that in the years - both personally and professionally - I&#039;ve made some howlers, but they&#039;ve been made and I learned a lot from them and that means those mistakes won&#039;t happen to clients.

Having said that, I think there&#039;s an element of always learning - but that&#039;s true of any communications - but you don&#039;t want clients thinking you&#039;re learning on their watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s easy to use the word PR as the starting point for all things social media, but I would say that &#8216;communicator&#8217; is a better catch-all. Without a good communicator &#8211; not just a speaker/typer but someone who can spot the opportunities while also knowing when to shut up is essential.</p>
<p>Claire&#8217;s point is a very valid one. I know that in the years &#8211; both personally and professionally &#8211; I&#8217;ve made some howlers, but they&#8217;ve been made and I learned a lot from them and that means those mistakes won&#8217;t happen to clients.</p>
<p>Having said that, I think there&#8217;s an element of always learning &#8211; but that&#8217;s true of any communications &#8211; but you don&#8217;t want clients thinking you&#8217;re learning on their watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Stuart. Think they&#039;ll be a lot of other disciplines that would argue PR is certainly an essential part of the mix but might not necessarily be the be all and end all skillset to develop a strategy for a client (and this is coming from someone who says &#039;outreach&#039; quite a lot).

I&#039;d point to agencies like AKQA whose digital creative such as the Fiat Eco Drive community is driven around an understanding of data rather than an understanding of PR, yet this is a pretty sociable idea that has spawned some pretty impressive conversations.

There are also agencies like Anomaly and Zeus Jones whose business models are very interesting and lend themselves to creating ideas they develop for/with the client that begin to open up &#039;marketing as a service&#039; - developing &#039;stuff&#039; people need/want which is useful and that would inherently lead to conversation, brand affinity and maybe even advocacy.

Certainly you&#039;d want some PR support on driving awareness around these ideas- but how much easier is a PR &#039;pitch&#039; when you know you have something that you know will be well received by the person you are &#039;outreaching&#039; too? Although it&#039;s important to understand the etiquette within social media by walking the walk ourselves as consultants in this space, if we or our clients don&#039;t have anything to say that we think would excite the people we need to talk to, we have to revisit the creative. 

After showing me you walk the talk and have experience in &#039;doing&#039; social media, perhaps if I were a client I&#039;d want the next few slides to show me you understand my consumers and that you understand their behaviour in this new world... you might even have an idea...

(I would just caveat that to increasingly come up with good creative ideas in this space, we DO need to be walking the walk to stimulate new thinking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Stuart. Think they&#8217;ll be a lot of other disciplines that would argue PR is certainly an essential part of the mix but might not necessarily be the be all and end all skillset to develop a strategy for a client (and this is coming from someone who says &#8216;outreach&#8217; quite a lot).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d point to agencies like AKQA whose digital creative such as the Fiat Eco Drive community is driven around an understanding of data rather than an understanding of PR, yet this is a pretty sociable idea that has spawned some pretty impressive conversations.</p>
<p>There are also agencies like Anomaly and Zeus Jones whose business models are very interesting and lend themselves to creating ideas they develop for/with the client that begin to open up &#8216;marketing as a service&#8217; &#8211; developing &#8216;stuff&#8217; people need/want which is useful and that would inherently lead to conversation, brand affinity and maybe even advocacy.</p>
<p>Certainly you&#8217;d want some PR support on driving awareness around these ideas- but how much easier is a PR &#8216;pitch&#8217; when you know you have something that you know will be well received by the person you are &#8216;outreaching&#8217; too? Although it&#8217;s important to understand the etiquette within social media by walking the walk ourselves as consultants in this space, if we or our clients don&#8217;t have anything to say that we think would excite the people we need to talk to, we have to revisit the creative. </p>
<p>After showing me you walk the talk and have experience in &#8216;doing&#8217; social media, perhaps if I were a client I&#8217;d want the next few slides to show me you understand my consumers and that you understand their behaviour in this new world&#8230; you might even have an idea&#8230;</p>
<p>(I would just caveat that to increasingly come up with good creative ideas in this space, we DO need to be walking the walk to stimulate new thinking).</p>
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		<title>By: Juliaif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliaif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true. true. true. But I guess many PR agencies will learn it the hard way and eventually do their social media-homework</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true. true. true. But I guess many PR agencies will learn it the hard way and eventually do their social media-homework</p>
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		<title>By: Sherrilynne Starkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherrilynne Starkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. Too many cowboys are coming out of the wood work. But don&#039;t worry, experience and excellent will prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. Too many cowboys are coming out of the wood work. But don&#8217;t worry, experience and excellent will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Fundstücke vom 14.12.2009 &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fundstücke vom 14.12.2009 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dezember 2009 &#183; Kommentar schreiben  The only three questions you need to ask your prospective PR social media agency Drei für Kunden wichtige Fragen, die ihre Social Media-Aktivitäten einer Agentur anvertrauen [...]</description>
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